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Lavenderflake
PROTEST AGAINST THE NEW SCIENCE JC EXAM! PLEASE READ!! :)

Hey! As you all who are studying science may know about the new changes in this year's science exam. I am not happy with the way it has changed because now it is mainly ''common sense'' and ''comprehension based'' , where you answer questions based on a text. Like, um how are we supposed to study for this?!! I have seen examples of previous science exam papers in the past years and they are nothing like the recent one. If you look through last years science exam (2019) there is only like 3 definitions?! and more text based questions. I would much rather the old science exam, where it was more factual and you could learn things off.. What do you guys think? Please let me know your opinions I would really appreciate it. I really think something needs to be done about this because I really want an A in JC science, and it would be hard to get one if I don't know what to even study for this year's exam. :(


285 Comments
Lavenderflake
Let's raise our voices so that The Department of Education can hear!
eshal786
eshal786
tbh, I kinda perfer it this way. You can still study for certain topics but I Just think its wayyy easier. tbh, Its basically a joke. I bet even my little brother can do all those 2019 exam papers without any hassle. Though, I do get where youre coming from and it might not be ideal for some people but I doubt we can do anything about it lol
Southpaw
Southpaw
dont know why you would have a problem with this. the course is changing for the better so you dont need to spend hours learning off useless definitions and actually have a good understanding of the subject instead of knowing what each word means.
Football512
You could pratice the 2019 mock paper if you hv premium or do the sec sample paper to prepare for reading comprehension
Football512
Its not like you cant prepare for it you can
Football512
Theres no point on raising your voice because They wont change it This is just a pointless discussion
eshal786
eshal786
@Azam, @Football512 is right though, its not like u cant prepare for it. I mean, u cant expect to get an A by chilling on ur bed thinking ur a genius and youll get an A in Science by breathing or something. You still need basic knowledge on topics and u can practice by doing comprehensions: like for example in the 2019 Jc for Science u needed to know what chemical and physical change are, what happens when we breath and so on so forth. Besides, the 2019 paper was too easy in my opinion because it was the first year doing the new science course. For us however, I doubt its going to be that easy. Theyre going to make it harder for us so u cant just sit there and think the exam will be a piece of cake. U need to have knowledge on most topics and u can only do that with study
eshal786
eshal786
@Azam Youre Grand xD
Football512
Even the sec sample paper has a reading comprehension kinda similiar to the 2019 exam or the mock paper 2019 but just different topic so you could use these three papers to prepare for it
Lavenderflake
@eshal and @football512, thank you for all your advice I rlly appreciate it :3
eshal786
eshal786
@Lavenderflake Np :heart:
Lavenderflake
I just want to note that my point also kinda was that this isn't really science then, and I know the majority would say that they prefer it this way just because they don't want to spend hours learning off definitions and stuff, but if your a person that's good at science then I don't see a problem in the old science exam.. I mean in the new science course you still have to know the topics anyway because the comprehensions will be based around them but your still not 100% what they'll exactly ask you. Like you may not be asked a lot of definitions compared to the old science exam, but like 3 or 4 idk, so your anyways gonna have to learn all of the definitions because you could still be asked any of them even if it's 1 or 2 defintions. But I appreciate all of your feedback and advice, so thank you!
eshal786
eshal786
Lol, Now I agree with you :joy:
eshal786
eshal786
Now that I come to think of it, This new science course is pretty pointless. Yes, It may be easier but thats not exactly a good thing. Its not gonna prepare us for fifth year at all and hopefully not but were probably going to running around like headless chickens. Lol :joy:
Lavenderflake
hahahaha XD
eshal786
eshal786
XD
bridgetown1
If you wish to protest about the new junior cert science then the people you should contact are the NCCA (National council for currricuum and assessment) who are in charge of drawing up the syllabi. You could also contact the ISTA (Irish Science Teachers Association). But do it in an oranised manner. Get a number of classes in a number of schools involved.
Sara122
Sara122
I'm an LC student and I think the new JC science is setting ye up for a disaster cuz for any science subject @ LC u gotta know definitions word for word, mess up on one word and you'll get ZERO marks, they'll butcher u on the dumbest mistake, but ah sure should be grand, good luck lads!
Lavenderflake
@Sara122, Yes! that is exactly why I am not happy with the new science exam because it's not gonna prepare us for LC and tbh it's not even science! This exam is technically just common sense based not 'knowledge based' which is what it should be...
Lavenderflake
@bridgetown1, As much as I would like to do what your saying its really not as easy as it sounds, I would really need support from other people who agree with me and besides the reason why I said 'protest' was to get people's attention and opinions and if a lot of people agree with me then maybe something can be done about this idk? but I highly doubt anything will change lol but who knows!
lovwar
lovwar
honestly i hope you go through with it, the jc science course is MAD. like it's disgustingly easy. it's not preparing people for the lc sciences AT ALL. no one's going to get fecking comprehensions in the lc science, it's so bad. it's so, so bad. i was going to protest as well, but i figured what's the point since i only had a few months left (im in 5th now, did the jc this year) i love science and i ended up with a merit, i studied my day and night for the science exam and everything, it's so unfair how they did that stupid bell curve thing with the science this year because it was "too easy" i appealed my grade and see what i'll get back but what i'm saying is, it's a shite course made for people who don't want to work. the grading for it is bull (im not saying this bc of my merit, i know i deserved better, i'm saying in general) there's barely any factual information learned now, and definitions are not even neccessary, whereas like one of the users said above, definitions are KEY in all lc sciences. it's terrible, i hope they do something about it. good luck though.
eshal786
eshal786
lovwar@ well said.
Geffakin01
@Iowar Same. So your saying the bell curve thing is why we got average grades?
Geffakin01
The new jc science course is rubbish, dosen't prepare you for LC at all, It's sad really
eshal786
eshal786
ikr
Matthewgarvey_
i think we should organise a protest
wasCF
wasCF
lovwar, eh Q11 in Physics is a comprehension. Although most of the questions have nothing to do with the conprehension anyway. Anyway, I only did the new Junior Cycle in English, which is an absolute disaster so I guess I shouldn't expect the new Science course to be any better. It's really sad that the reforms were this bad though, the JC and LC was absolutely in need of reform yet the new syllabi are worse than the old ones. I was thinking more on the lines of updating the content to be more modern and using technology as a means of doing projects and understanding concepts, not this dumbed down sh**e. Like removing some of the pointless learning-off (not all of it, but some of it) and delving deeper into topics so that you can have a better understanding of them. What's hilarious is that they aren't bothered to change the Leaving Cert syllabi in order to be in line with the JC changes, probably in order to avoid Ireland's education system being turned into an international mockery.
Lavenderflake
Guys we need to do something about this, I absoloutely love science and I would and I will study day and night to get good grades, but cuz of this bell curve thing if I get an everage grade I will literally cry! this is SO UNFAIR :(
YashyBoy360
I agree @azam, the exam is a lot easier than it was. But I feel that all you need to do is just look over notes, just understand what happens with certain topics, for example, the respiratory system, understand how the gas exchange works, waste products of respiration, aerobic respiration and anaerobic respiration. That way when it comes to the exam you'll be able to answer the questions easier and you'll achieve a high grade. It's easy when it's these kinds of questions as well. :wink:
YashyBoy360
sorry I meant @lavenderflake:grimacing:
Lavenderflake
@lovwar, what you said is a very good explaination XD but it's scaring me so much
Lavenderflake
@yashyboy360, thanks a lot for the advice that's what I was probably going to do seeing that there is no way out of this situation
Lavenderflake
But the bell curve thing is driving me mad, even if I get a lot of study and do well in the exam I'm scared if I get an average score because of the bell curve thing
eshal786
eshal786
Just suck it up and deal with it. Nothing can be done about it. We're not going to get anywhere by complaining. Try your best and you'll be fine.
eshal786
eshal786
Ik this new exam sucks and is absolutely primary school level but instead of complaing about it, maybe studying and trying will you help. I doubt we can do anything about it. But no one is stopping ye from protesting. Its gonna be pointless though. Best of Luck to everyone x I honestly hope we all get good grades despite this rubbish new course...
AOC2023
AOC2023
It's different to every other subject and focuses heavily on 'common sense'. It wants you to learn processes and about the nature of science rather than definitions. You almost have to dumb your brain down and forget all past papers that you have seen for the exam.
Geffakin01
Im telliing you right now i studied day and night The only subject i cared about during the junior cert was science. I really wanted a distinction. When i opened the exam on the day I looked at the first question and actually laughed. I knew it was gonna be easy but not THAT easy. Anyway, my results came out and i did average. I was really CONFUSED.....I swear I got like 3 questions wrong on the whole paper. You guys need to protest becuase this bell curve marking scheme will not get you the grade you worked for
eshal786
eshal786
Geffakin01@ I didnt know it was that bad... So, Does that means the marking scheme is really harsh then? And what is this 'bell curve' marking scheme, anyways? Lol I rly need to know more on this now :sweat:
eshal786
eshal786
I was aiming for a distinction but getting an average grade and 3 questions wrong on the paper is absolutely horrendous. Now i'm sort of nervous tbh. I knew the marking scheme was harsh but NOT THAT HARSH. I swear to God babies will be ruling the world in 2020
Geffakin01
The teachers hate the new course so yes they are angry that it is so easy so they mark it way harer than usual, like make any little mistake and you lose marks. Bell Curve Grading. ... In true use of bell curve grading, students' scores are scaled according to the frequency distribution represented by the Normal curve. The instructor can decide what grade occupies the center of the distribution. This is the grade an average score will earn, and will be the most common. So basically if you get a low A(85) then you get an average grade. if you get a high A(95%) you get a high grade
Geffakin01
My advice...try and be one of the students who do REALLY well so they don't get affected by the curve system
eshal786
eshal786
You have got be kidding me. But we cant do anything about it, can we?
eshal786
eshal786
I rly rly rly want a distinction. I'll have to work my head off now... When do you think I should start studying though?
Geffakin01
Unless you get thousands of students to protest..no. All you can do is study REALLY HARD. I'm guessing since our exam was so easy yours will be a bit harder
Geffakin01
Start now, little by little. But once its march go crazy at those past papers
eshal786
eshal786
Yeah, that's what I was guessing... But thanks anyways, I hope the next exams work out for you :)
eshal786
eshal786
yeah, I have my pre-mocks next week so after them im going to go crazy
eshal786
eshal786
Also if youre still there...do u know anything about the new french listening exam?
eshal786
eshal786
I had my french listening today and the questions were in FRENCH which rly confused me cuz I was looking through the past exam papers and all the listening questions were in ENGLISH.
Geffakin01
Ye thats how it works lol I did german and the questions are in english while they speak german. It's tough
eshal786
eshal786
No I meant the questions were in french n they speak in french and you write in french
eshal786
eshal786
while in the past papers the questions were in french, they speak in french and you write in english
eshal786
eshal786
*english
eshal786
eshal786
*french actually soz this is so confusing
eshal786
eshal786
Lemme repeat that: So I did my listening today and the questions were in french, you listen in french and you answer in french While in the past papers: The questions were in english, you listen in french and you answer in english
lovwar
lovwar
@wasCF the difference between the physics comprehension Q and the shite junior cycle comprehensions is massive. comprehensions in the junior cycle science is like something you'll get in a foundation level english paper, it's piss easy. way too easy. i just saw the physics comprehension Q and that is what you call a good question to ask, the questions based on the comprehension ask not only the info from the comprehension, but also asks you to write info based on what you've learnt as well. the questions asked after a comprehension for junior cycle science is stupid. i honestly wish i did the old junior cert science. and the bell curve seemed to be explained already so i won't explain that lmao, but yeah if loads of people get good grades they have to put some people down, so if ur borderline distinction u could get a higher merit, borderline higher merit could give u a merit, so on so forth. but they could also simply not tote up the marks correctly, or they made a mistake correcting. it's why i was so determined to appeal science, i expected a distinction too like @Geffakin01 but ended up getting a merit as i've said before. the test was too easy, so a lot of people would have had to settle for a lesser grade than they deserve just because the distribution of grades would have been uneven.
lovwar
lovwar
if you want to get a distinction. study the marking scheme from our paper, study the paper itself. if you study the 2019 marking scheme you'll know exactly what they're expecting you to have in different types of questions. before you go "well but we're having a different exam" of course yous are, but looking at the marking scheme and the bits and pieces of comments in it could make you think that the next time you do a past paper (forget the old jc past papers, dont ever look at them. theres no point.) you'll know the sort of answer they're looking for. an example is: a calculation question. do they want all steps, or is the answer sufficient. SECTION B - is extremely important. focus the most on it. section A is a piece of cake. most of the marks are here, so do your absolute best on this section. practise EXPERIMENT QUESTIONS AND EARTH AND SPACE. i've noticed that earth and space is a favourite one for them to use in section B even though i've only done the jc this year.
lovwar
lovwar
@eshal786 oh yikesss, i would hate that. i hated the aural but man everything in french now? oml
lovwar
lovwar
our french listening was the Qs were in english and u answered in english
eshal786
eshal786
lovwar@ Sounds good to me. Thanks a mil xD I need all the advice I can get since im dreading for a distinction so thanks so much the advice :D
eshal786
eshal786
lovwar@ ikr :( I think i did awful...Everyone was saying how bad it was and the audio sounded like someone had recorded it multiple times...
eshal786
eshal786
I cant wait to get into 5th yr tbh. The new junior cycle is dreadful...
lovwar
lovwar
you'll love 5th year, things will actually make sense. there is a revision book for jc science if u think you'll need it, it's called smart study junior cycle science, its a tenner. see ur mock results and if u think youll need it u could give that a shot.
lovwar
lovwar
https://www.schoolbooks.ie/collections/junior-cert-science-revision-guides/products/smart-study-junior-cycle-science
lovwar
lovwar
we didnt have revision stuff for science because we were the 1st ones to do it so, yous are lucky haha
eshal786
eshal786
haha I actually have it :joy::pray: Thanks XD
eshal786
eshal786
its very helpful. Always use it for study n tests :D
lovwar
lovwar
ahahaha is it good?? the revision aid?
lovwar
lovwar
i was wondering if theyd be good since its 1st edition nall
lovwar
lovwar
oh alright, didnt see ur comment there, thats good if its helping. well sure, all of yous will do grand. study yer arses off and hopefully you'll reap your rewards, and remember - it's only the junior cycle. good luck x
eshal786
eshal786
oh its amazing. I practically sleep with that thing lmao. very simple, straightforward and contains everything u need to know.
eshal786
eshal786
"only the junior cycle" not in my house its not XD but thanks a million XD U seem to know ur stuff so dont be surprised if I end up asking u for advice in the middle of the night lol Thanks xxx Good luck 2 u too :D
lovwar
lovwar
haha it was like that for me as well, asian tings i guess lmao. and no bother, i was exactly like you a few months ago, always on studyclix looking for answers and asking questions. keep asking, the more you know, the more it'll help. don't be afraid to ask anyone, it doesn't matter if it's a stupid question, if it concerns you, you should come forward. some people on here can be annoying, but the majority of us are just tired but we do want to help. you can ask me for help any time you want, don't worry about it. but please don't burn yourself out. it's one thing i regret doing. i was so stressed for the exams, i burned myself out by the easter holidays. i didn't study at all in may, i regret not taking care of my health, both mentally and physically because i could have done better. i could have gotten more As. i was devastated when i saw i got 4 Bs, i was expecting all As, but then again, i didnt bother to take care of my health and gave up after the easter holidays, which is why i probably ended up with those Bs. the moral of my story is - please take care of your health (this goes to all of you doing the jc) it's not worth sacrificing your health for these exams. if i took care of myself and pushed myself through and didnt give up after april, i know i would have seen more As. always take breaks, always take care of yourself throughout these next few months, do not do what i did. studying hours on end with no breaks, you'll end up giving up, you'll end up tired.
eshal786
eshal786
that was so beautiful I want to cry... you're very nice btw. people on here can be rude, unhelpful and so unmotivating. r u asian? lel oh, and I have to ask u q if youre still there
lovwar
lovwar
yes i'm bengali ( i was born in ireland and my parents are from bangladesh ) what do you want to ask?
eshal786
eshal786
b r g? just curious :)
lovwar
lovwar
b r g? what does that mean lmao
eshal786
eshal786
Boy r girl lmao Im the kind that cant help but ask genders (ik im so weird)
lovwar
lovwar
ohhhh lmao ye im a girl fam, i was so confused. u asian too?
eshal786
eshal786
*wink*
eshal786
eshal786
ya know wut? I officially call us studyclix friends :)
lovwar
lovwar
if that wink meant ur asian too than cool, i understand how asian parents be like. don't mind them. just do your own thing.
eshal786
eshal786
aha, my parents be like "where the .1 percent at?" lmao
Geffakin01
lol we all got ecouraged to do med
lovwar
lovwar
swearrrr, its always med. i want to do medicine but neuroscience is my 2nd dream course, it seems really interesting
eshal786
eshal786
ikr
eshal786
eshal786
funny thing i act want to do med
eshal786
eshal786
both my parents r doctors so I find theyre stories interesting
Geffakin01
I have foreign parents and u pick: engineering law or med XD
Geffakin01
you must be so rich if they are both docs
eshal786
eshal786
ahaha no comment
eshal786
eshal786
do earn a lot tho my irish friends go crazy
eshal786
eshal786
but the purpose of med isnt just money tbh
lovwar
lovwar
aha thats very true, i just love the thought of saving lives tbh
eshal786
eshal786
Ikr. I want to be that one person who saves someone life
eshal786
eshal786
My mam and dad told me they saved lives and I just cant describe the feeling y'know...
eshal786
eshal786
Its good tho...that our parents have high expectations for us. It just pushes u on and on. Tbh I feel like if my parents werent strict, I wouldnt be so determjned to get As y,know Lol can u relate r is it just me
eshal786
eshal786
Honestly, Thank you @lovwar and @Geffakin01. I hadnt a clue how harsh the marking sceme was until today. And now im gonna work extra hard and i'll tell ye (if u want to that is) how I do later on XD Thanks again! You both are absolute legends! And Good Luck with youre 5th yr exams, LC and HPAT! xoxo
eshal786
eshal786
*scheme
wasCF
wasCF
lovwar, you see that's just sad. For all the department's talks about trying to get students to understand the subjects, they still set some of the most arbitary and anti-intellectual marking schemes for some subjects. I would have thought that they'd have learned from their mistakes and set a good marking scheme for Junior Cycle Science, but I guess not.
wasCF
wasCF
Anyway, they're supposed to be implementing new Leaving Cert science syllabi in the coming years. They should probably be in line with Junior Cycle Science (hopefully). I heard that they're going to abolish the choice of questions though. Guess I'm glad to not have to go through that.
devikadas
devikadas
Hey! I am a 5th year student and i did my jc in 2017. i had to learn the defnitions word for word which is a pain. But at the same time i think it is better personally especially if u want to take a science subject for third level. but i get where u are coming from. There's a alot of defnitions in the course. Anyway good luck to all!:thumbsup:
Football512
Its what it is the marking scheme maybe harsh but if you have quality answers you shouldnt reall worry
Lavenderflake
Wow i just log in and I see 105 comments lol. Guys, I appreciate everyone for commenting on my post I didn't know that lot's of people would actually talk about this. And I just don't find it helpful when people discourage me and tell me that I can't do anything about this because some big things start with one person until we have an army XD. And what someone said that they got on average for getting 3 questions wrong.. that is INSANE. So that is why I thought that something needs to be done because I know no matter how much I study everyone can make 2 or 3 mistakes!! But that doesn't mean I deserve an average and neither do those people who worked just as hard as me. So don't just tell me to work harder.. because the person who got only 3 things wrong worked hard too but still got an average. Honestly I feel like crying about this whole situation right now, I really had my hopes up that maybe if a lot of people were against this something could have changed.. (sorry if I sound angry, i'm just really stressed out :( )
Hermione1s
well if you don't have to study then i don't see what your complaining about unless of course you enjoy staring at books for hours on end :wink:
Lavenderflake
haha very funny... Of course I'm going to study, but I meant that people just keep telling me to study harder when we all could do something about this
Lavenderflake
Studier harder isn't the only solution
Lavenderflake
*studying
Lavenderflake
@Hermione, unless you've got a better suggestion?
Football512
I dont think we can do anything about it really thats the truth
Lavenderflake
Yea I know thanks tho
Football512
have a question ca. ypu answer Science question jc (f) Aluminium reacts with chlorine to form the compound aluminium chloride. Use the Periodic Table on page 79 of the Formulae and Tables booklet to predict the ratio of aluminium to chlorine in this compound. Hence write the chemical formula for aluminium chloride. I get the chemcial formula part but how can you get 3 at the end AlCl3 which i dont get can somebody explain pls 0 Comments
Lavenderflake
@eshal, I really wasn't trying to complain at all, and I apologise if it seemed like it. But we all deserve the grade we worked for.. And I don't think you would be very happy if you got an average if you worked harder than that? Well then that's my point.
Football512
Somebody answer my question
Football512
The above
Football512
Qs
Lavenderflake
@football512, I never did that type of ratio question in Science.. sorry I wish I could help
Football512
then somebody help maybe eshal
eshal786
eshal786
You dont need to apologise for anything. And I 100 percent agree that we deserve the grade we worked for but then again nothing is impossible and im sure someone got a distinction in science. But this is the JC. Not the end of the world. As long as you know you tried ur best, all is good. But instead of trying to organize a protest maybe its better to just accept it and move on. Its no ones fault this irish eduaction system sucks. And not for just the JC. But for other exams like PLAB 1 and 2. Etc etc.Its horrenrous. People are making this over dramatic though. It is what it is. I know I sound awfully cold but its the truth. You all can try but its a waste of time. There are worse problems in this world. People have other things to worry about. Just be grateful. Atleast we have an education and we try to the best of our ability. Thats all that really matters <3 Good Luck to you all x
Lavenderflake
Thank you, eshal :heartpulse: Good luck to you too x
Lavenderflake
That made me feel better XD
eshal786
eshal786
Aww youre grand <3 I'm glad I made you feel better. You just made my day XD
Lavenderflake
I'm glad I did :)
eshal786
eshal786
@Football512 Hope This Helps
Football512
Now i get it
Football512
You get 1 but minusing the electro configuration numbers right and you get 3 by doing the same right
Football512
We have not even got our papers yet for science
eshal786
eshal786
(I didnt get it from examit, I physically had to do it since the solution wasnt on examit) Do you get it though?
Football512
I am right yh that you have to minus
eshal786
eshal786
wut It was 100 percent right, my one
Football512
No thats not i mean that i am right that you hv to minus
eshal786
eshal786
You get rid of each of the 3 useless electrons in aluminium and transport them to 3 chlorides...In order for chloride to have a full outer shell. Which means there is 3 chlorides now so 1 : 3 and AlCl3
Aisha322
Aisha322
@eshal, sorry I just saw one of your comment from a different post, saying that for your CBA you did 'which material is the best insulator for heat' .. Did you do that this year?
eshal786
eshal786
You dont have to minus anything accept the 3 electrons from aluminium. Each 1 of the electrons are added to 3 chlorides in order for chloride to have a full outer shell.
eshal786
eshal786
@Aisha322 No, Sorry I did that last year in 2nd year. Still havent done CBA 2 :(
Aisha322
Aisha322
ohhh ok
Football512
I get it
eshal786
eshal786
@Aisha322 Sorry :( @Football512 k good. You're Welcome btw. I was actually able to help you this time.
Aisha322
Aisha322
What is the topic for CBA 2?
Aisha322
Aisha322
@eshal, your grand
eshal786
eshal786
You have to pick any topic you like I think. Im not doing CBA 2 yet so idk much detail.
Football512
For any question like this yh
Aisha322
Aisha322
ok, thx anyways
eshal786
eshal786
yup. anyways, cya
eshal786
eshal786
@Aisha322 Np Cya Later N Good Luck :)
eshal786
eshal786
and u should get the science exam papers. theyre handy.
Football512
We havent got them yet
eshal786
eshal786
wdym? Theyre in stock
eshal786
eshal786
u dont have to get them when youre told by the school you know. its for youre benefit.
eshal786
eshal786
*your
Football512
I not buying them the school provides you with one
eshal786
eshal786
Anyways, gtg cya later. Hope the solution helped you :) Bye
eshal786
eshal786
@Football512 Lol, thats weird. we had to buy them.
Football512
When youre in third year you get exam papers
eshal786
eshal786
I'm in third year :no_mouth: But we had to buy them before third year started
eshal786
eshal786
Shoot, I gtg study. Have my exams starting on tuesday :tired_face: Byeeeeeeeeeee
Lavenderflake
@eshal, I wish you the very best of luck on your exams! I know you'll do great, just don't stress and believe in yourself :)
eshal786
eshal786
@Lavenderflake Aww, thanks a million xD Good luck with your exams as well and I sure do hope I'll do great. Thanks again for the extra push, I really needed it :) your awfully nice btw, very rare I'd say :) :heart:
Football512
How do you have your exams in November
eshal786
eshal786
Pre-mocks/Christmas assesments. Ikr. How come you dont have yours?
Football512
Mine is in Feb
eshal786
eshal786
Thats mocks :neutral_face: Mine is in Feb too.
eshal786
eshal786
Looks like my school has extra exams then. Unlucky and lucky in a way.
Football512
We dont have those
eshal786
eshal786
That's weird. I'm pretty sure loads of schools have those... Anyways, wish me luck :) My first exams are English & History. Dreading History :(
Football512
Gl
eshal786
eshal786
Thanks XD
eshal786
eshal786
You too in Feb :)
Lavenderflake
@eshal, no problem.. You deserve it :heartpulse: I appreciate the compliment :blush: thanks! x
eshal786
eshal786
@Lavenderflake, You're Welcome xoxo Also, if you need any help regarding science i'd be happy to help you :heart: I still have pretty high hopes dspite all this crap and I think helping others is a good learning experience xD
Lavenderflake
@eshal, oh that would be great thanks! Now whenever I need help regarding science I know who to turn to XD Thanks again!! :wink:
eshal786
eshal786
Don't Mention It XD
Football512
Hv a question Whats a famous story from the Fianníocht
eshal786
eshal786
What? Lol
eshal786
eshal786
If you're asking about either about History or Irish, I am definitely not the person to ask as I depise both :relieved: But feel free to ask about anything to do with any other subject XD
Football512
For irish i need a famous story from the fiannaíocht meaning fianna
eshal786
eshal786
Sorry I don't have any :(
eshal786
eshal786
Any other subject?
Football512
Nah
eshal786
eshal786
Okay...Wait Can I say something?
eshal786
eshal786
Just wanted to apologize for when I went kablooie when I couldnt help you with your history work. Think I over-reacted... Sorry again :weary:
colm4259
colm4259
hmm... good idea, i mean the course seems stupidly easy, but theres not much point arguing or hoping for a change - maybe its for the better. some of these one definitons may even become irrelovant or tedious to learn, something like that
Football512
Not history irish
eshal786
eshal786
It was history...Don't you remember? Lol Nvm, It was a while ago...
AislingMcGlynn
I agree with all of ye. In the new exam, we're tested on how we can apply the knowledge we learned in class to everyday scenarios. I think this is better that learning off facts - which was still good, because it was science, and we were learning about that sort of stuff - but with the new way, we are learning how to use the knowledge we learned in the classroom. Fair enough, some of the stuff on the exam is based purely on common sense, and I agree that we're not taught this, and therefore it's very hard to figure out the answer. Also some of the questions are asked soooo awkwardly, it's hard to decipher what they are actullay asking us. There are a lot of pros and cons to both the new and the old exam....
rmoynihan.occ
Old test... How much science do you know. New test... How much science can you use.
lovwar
lovwar
y'all i got my appeals back and i got upgraded from merit to higher merit in science !!
lovwar
lovwar
if yous end up getting a shite grade in science and end up wanting to appeal because yous think you deserved better, go for it! people do get hit by the bell curve but an appeal could change the grade despite the bell curve nonsense
eshal786
eshal786
@lovwar Wow, didn't realize that was a thing. Well Done :)))
MrKnowitall
The new science exam is complete bull and does in no way whatsoever compare to the leaving cert sciences, or prepare you for them either. For those wh don't care about academics of course they love it. For those of you who hope to go into medicine, science, physics, etc, this exam is a joke and should be immediately replaced with a higher level paper.
Lavenderflake
@lovwar, oh that's great to hear! thanks for telling everyone I really appreciate it :D
Football512
True MrKnowitall but i dont think it will be replaced with a hl paper
aprilshowers
hey, so I am a TY student and i just did the JC......... You can study for the new science exam, just read through the book and i guess you can fill in the blanks with "common sense", but the new junior cycle exams are so much easier, which can be a bad thing as we will find the leaving cert science exams (especially chemistry) so much harder. For the science exam though, just study as you normally would
phant0m
phant0m
the new jc currently doesn't reflect upon the lc but i think they're gradually flipping the entire education system so that in coming yrs the lc will be majorly comprehension based too, it's just unfortuately a v slow process so it may make the lc experience a lot more difficult for a lot of u sitting the jc this/in coming yrs
Southpaw
Southpaw
wow this may be the biggest studyclix post yet
Azam
Azam
southpaw u r sooo wrong xd
Football512
The biggest post on studyclix is the math's advice with 1781 comments
Rahern1234
Hey Guys, I only saw this now but anyway I did my Junior Cert last year ( 2019 ) and managed to get a Distinction in the 3 New Junior Cycle exams ( Not trying to brag or anything ) Just wondering does anybody want any advice or tips on how I got distinctions and I agree that new Junior Cycle is :poop:
eshal786
eshal786
@Rahern1234 Heyyy, yeah pls, what would you advise us to do if we wanna get distinctions?
Rahern1234
Okay, well Science would always have been an exam I struggled with ( In my pre I got 68 but our pre was really really difficult ) For Science what I basically did was used one of the old junior cert less stress books highlighted all the key points, learned the experiments and then the chapters that they didn't have on the old course like earth and space I just had to learn from the book... Unfortunately, no experiments came up on our science exam after me learning all of them but basically if you give detailed yet straight to the point ( No Bull )answers on both your science exam and your assessment task you will be fine I promise. I was lucky in a sense as my teacher basically covered the old Junior Cert Science course with my class as she didnt know what we needed to know.
eshal786
eshal786
Ah okay. We're kinda lucky cuz' we have a new revision book. Thanks a mil :)
Rahern1234
I was never one of the top science students in my class yet I was the only one to get a distinction in my class and honestly compared to other people I did way less study which shows us how unfair the new JC exam is .... The new Business and English exams are also disasters though.
eshal786
eshal786
Couldn't of said it better myself. It's chaotic. I rly hope I do well...
Rahern1234
So I just wrote this on an English Forum nut for people who do not see it: I got a Distinction so basically just learn your Shakespearean quotes ( I did the Merchant Of Venice, not Romeo and Juliet ), know about 7 or 8 poems really well including quotes and poetic techniques ( Some good easy poems include: Dulce et Decorum Est, The Road not Taken, The Lake Isle of Innisfree, Timothy Winters, Shall I compare thee to a summers day and generally Heaney's poems are easy to write about eg Blackberry Picking, Mid-Term Break and The Early Purges, etc ). Okay moving onto the novel usually the easiest question on the exam ( I studied To Kill a Mockingbird, Of Mice and Men and Animal Farm ) There are some great notes online if you are stuck but knowing the plot, setting, themes, protagonist vs antagonist, character development, authors writing style and having a comparison between 2 novels should be sufficient. Finally moving onto the infamous 'Film', we actually studied 2 Films ( E.T and Bend it Like Beckham ) but if this question is asked it should not be difficult, I just learned the plot, cinematic techniques, and the main character. Honestly, don't stress the exam is long, questions are phrased awkwardly but the exam is not too hard overall.
eshal786
eshal786
Got it Thnx so much, I rly appreciate it and were you talking about your pre-mocks or mocks previoulsy? I got 97 for Science even tho I studied but Ik ppl didnt do too well...and I got 75 for Eng which I was very dissapointed with. The questions were phrased very awkwardly and that got me off track.
Rahern1234
I was talking about my actual mock for Science, there is more than one company that make the mocks and I had a different company that the mock they have on studyclix but they asked 2 long questions on earth and Space and we were expected to know famous comets and facts about the Kuiper Belt it was so awful.
Lavenderflake
@Rahem, the mock exam for science on studyclix is way easier than what your talking about with the famous comets and Kuiper Belt thing, that sounds mad
Lavenderflake
I just hope they don't do the same for the L.C or I'm screwed
Football512
Examcraft is much easier than deb exam for science
eshal786
eshal786
yeah... let's just hope for the best and study as much as we possibly can (btw that sounds insane Rahern)
Football512
Depending on your school, Its either deb or examcraft
eshal786
eshal786
Good luck to everyone
eshal786
eshal786
Think my school is deb
Rahern1234
What do you want to get in your JC like what results?
Lavenderflake
I wish I did the old J.C tbh
Lavenderflake
All A's
eshal786
eshal786
don't call me crazy but I want a distinction in all subjects... Ik that's mad ambitious but I think I can do it
Rahern1234
These were mine : Irish - A English - Distinction Maths - B French - B German - A Business - Distinction History - A Geography - B Science - Distinction Religion - B Cspe - A
eshal786
eshal786
Wow...you must have studied day in and day out
Rahern1234
I had the old Jc for Irish German and French are they were way more difficult especially Irish and German
eshal786
eshal786
I'm just struggling a bit in Irish and English but other than that I think I'm g
Lavenderflake
Do you have any more tips, for studying for science? I rlly want a distinction, science is my best subject
eshal786
eshal786
But did you not see the new Irish sample paper? It's insane. French is a joke.
Rahern1234
Not really I studied smart like using my predictions so, therefore, cut my workload in half.
eshal786
eshal786
Oh... yeah I dunno if I should do that lol dont wanna take an risks
eshal786
eshal786
*any
Rahern1234
Yeah I suppose your Irish exam is hard but the old papers are really difficult like unseen poetry
Lavenderflake
yeah same xD I wouldn't
eshal786
eshal786
Yeah ig so. French is legit 6th class lvl. How did you study for Maths?
Rahern1234
Instead of learning 25 people in histories I learned about 8 lmao and my predictions were right
eshal786
eshal786
That's just ur luck then xD I'm not very lucky haha
Rahern1234
Maths is literally practising exam papers tho the 2019 Maths papers were really difficult I would have usually got an A in maths
eshal786
eshal786
Legit tripped before doing my Business CBA, it was funny lmao
eshal786
eshal786
ye, I got 97 for Maths but some questions rly put me off and I finished on the dot. Half my class failed and dropped...
Lavenderflake
But srsly how did you manage to get a distinction in English? English is my worst subject lmao
eshal786
eshal786
omg don't get me started I cried in the bathroom when I found out when I got a B It was horrendous
Lavenderflake
Yeah, english is hard :(
eshal786
eshal786
*I found out I got a B
Lavenderflake
Btw I got 97 in maths too, that's such a coincidence xD
eshal786
eshal786
just the time pressure and the wording
eshal786
eshal786
wow, well done xD
Lavenderflake
Thx, well done to you too
eshal786
eshal786
Thanksss
Rahern1234
I got 81 in my English mock once again a DEB exam it was quite tricky and the film came up what a shocker! There was also this really difficult unseen Shakespearean Drama which I didn't finish but working on your timing and practicing your exam qs is the key to success in English.
eshal786
eshal786
yh timing especially I finished on the dot but didnt write to the best of my ability cuz' of timing
eshal786
eshal786
did ye have a CBA last yr?
Lavenderflake
Our english teacher gave us an extra 15 min long Q that no one got time to do lmao But I still rushed it in the end
Rahern1234
yeah, I understand, will I tell you the q on the film that came up because I still have my English pre and its the only film q example that there is really.
eshal786
eshal786
yes pls we just finished studying Bend It Like Beckham
Lavenderflake
Yes that would rlly help :)
Lavenderflake
We did Bend it Like Beckam last yr
eshal786
eshal786
ye lol it was kinda funny but a rly bad film my teacher stopped it every 5 secs to ask us about that frame -_-
Lavenderflake
oh that must have been annoying XD
eshal786
eshal786
It was xD
Rahern1234
Select a film that you have studied. Choose one scene or episode and discuss how the medium of film brings it to life. Refer to at least 2 cinematic techniques in your response such as setting, lighting, special effects, music and sound, camera position and angle, etc. ---------------------- 15 Marks
Lavenderflake
That's the Q we got for our pre mocks this year
eshal786
eshal786
It's kinda like stagecraft that's not too bad
Rahern1234
It was a really nice question to be fair... I got 14/15
Lavenderflake
Bravo :D
eshal786
eshal786
yh doesn't seem too bad I just hate analysing poetry and stuff you have to do on the spot
Rahern1234
Yes we had that on our junior cert the first q was to analyze a poem about a lamb.
Lavenderflake
We had that lamb Q for our pre mock as well lmao
eshal786
eshal786
ye we got something to do with bees xD I did k in that Q but it was so annoying
Rahern1234
There was also analysing an unseen piece written by Aoife Dooley which was actually a lovely question and we had to analyse our own studied poem
eshal786
eshal786
I legit did every poetry Q possible and my teacher gave us one that was not on Studyclix so I suffered
Lavenderflake
Yes that was actually pretty easy, I just lost marks for not having paragraphs :neutral_face:
eshal786
eshal786
I love doing studied poems, they're so handy. I also really like the Stagecraft Q and the Studied play ones
Rahern1234
Oh no !!!!!!! Unseen poetry is not hard after a lot of practice
eshal786
eshal786
rly? lol I hate it
eshal786
eshal786
I mean I'm g at the techniques and stuff but finding the secret meaning behind potatoes I cannot do.
Rahern1234
Yes The Merchant of Venice was actually a really enjoyable play and surprisingly easy to write about even though the question was more suited to Romeo and Juliet
Rahern1234
I hate unseen Shakspearean Drama
eshal786
eshal786
we did Romeo & Juliet and I did rly good on that section but I mainly messed up on the unseen poetry and comprehension
Rahern1234
COMPREHENSION ?1
eshal786
eshal786
unseen drama is a pain in the neck
eshal786
eshal786
yh pls don't judge idk what happened
eshal786
eshal786
anything we have to analyse on the stop, I mess up.
eshal786
eshal786
Flake, can u pls go on our other post? :)
Lavenderflake
Okie
racheldoh5
so what if you dont get a top grade?
Ryanboyd
Ryanboyd
No this way is ALOT BETTER and improves your science knowledge outside of a classroom like when are u ever gonna need to know what the defination of something like force is in real life
MrKnowitall
Ryanboyd...If your doing leaving cert physics, then everything and more from the original junior cert honors and ordinary level applies. This common level stuff can be used outside the classroom sure, but the point of the junior cert is to prep you for your leaving cert. So if you're leaving school after your JC, good for you, you can apply that new common level crap to your everyday life with no degree in anything...or, you can apply almost none of it bar the parts that were similar to the old junior cert, to your leaving cert! YAAAAAY
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