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addiepie
Should people do TY or not?
addiepie The Junior Cert18

I have pretty strong opinions on this, so I want to start a discussion on what other people think really. I’ve just started 3rd year and here is what I think... I don’t think TY is good. Not for me anyway. I feel like it would make me forget a lot of things, because I have 3 months of summer break and it feels like I literally forgot nearly everything that I’ve learned... so how is that going to turn out in a whole year? I’ll forget my own name! I’d get way too lazy to do my work and thenI would feel like 5th Year would probably consume me, because of the workload. I don’t want to fall into any bad habits, and I feel like it is easier to study when your mind is still in the zone! TY is also extremely expensive, and I don’t really want my parents paying for something that costs so much, and I won’t get anything from it, so what’s the point? Also, a year more in school? No thank you! I would just like to get secondary school over and done with, so I can save up to move out of Ireland and study abroad in Germany or Poland, because I’m not even Irish and there is nothing and no-one here for me. Work experience and finding a college is not a problem for me, because trips to different colleges in IRELAND may be useful to some, but for me? Not so much. I already have an idea of what I want to do (Communications Design). Work experience in TY is absolutely ridiculous. If you are lucky you get a good job, but people are usually not good to young teens, they take advantage and give them the worst jobs they can. That’s what I’ve heard anyway, but I need someone else’s opinion on this. Work experience can also be achieved not only in TY, my friend got a job last summer, so it’s not a problem. Also there’s a subject called LCVP. Out of all the people that I know, all of them regretted going into TY. They told me to just skip ahead because it’s a waste of time. I’ve never even heard of someone that regretted skipping TY anyway. What are your opinions on this? These are just my reasons but I’d love to hear what other people think.


18 Comments
Damo6969
Damo6969
I skipped TY and now i'm in 5th year. I don't regret it at all however. Everyone kind of feels sorry for me because I skipped. They say how reckless I am for heading into the leaving cycle so early. I don't see this as a downside, everybody will do it eventually. One of the main things I was worried about was skipping a full year of education. I tought that I'll have to catch up on work that TYs did, such as maths. But that wasn't the case. 5th is stressful and overwhelming but I think skipping TY is better because I don't feel lazy to learn.
MrKnowitall
I'm currently in TY. I was extremely academic and always will be, but TY is such a good break for me, and i've already participated in many newer things which really improved my confidence. There is no stress and you build a stronger bond with everyone. I think if you're not willing to step out of your comfort zone and try new things, or you didn't try much in junior cycle, forget it. It will be of no benefit to you. However, if you are the opposite, go right ahead.
Geffakin01
Ty is for students that can't handle the brain power needed to take LC head on, so they run away from it and do TY instead.
Aoibhín_6524
I just started 5th year after doing TY (not optional in my school) I'm quite academic, and I wish a little more "school work" was included in TY, but I did enjoy it. It was interesting to work in different places (it was quite easy to find work placements, and they treated me very well and everyone I've spoken to have said the same). We also got to go on some interesting trips and workshops as well. We did a driving lesson, First Aid course, some went abroad to help out a poor daycare in Romania, spoke to people on either side in Northern Ireland, made our own mini company and more. TY is a break from school work and a chance to try out new things. You can go abroad for a while, try out courses, do some stuff for your school, charities, etc. You just have to put in the effort. Although, there were times when it was boring, I won't lie. A lot of the times when there wasn't anything to do, the class were on their phones or talking with friends. Going back to the academics in 5th year wasn't a problem to me or anyone I've spoken to in my year. The first 2 days or so are weird, but after that it feels like you haven't taken a year off at all. You go right back into routine. For me, at least.
CalmlyStressed
Skipped TY and now hello 5th Year! At 14 years old. It's been 3 weeks and I don't regret it too much... but I'm "managing" just about. The workload is insane compared to JC. I am experiencing crazy stress just in 3 weeks. But I am getting used to it, inevitably. I essentially share your opinions about TY and your viewpoint but I have much less of an idea of what I want to do after the LC. I am far too young to be in LC and I'll have to take a gap year after the LC to join uni/it at 17 - making it seem pointless for me to have skipped TY. But the whole premise of TY is not for me. I am not ready to get out my comfort zone, socialize, teamwork and all that shazam I'd have to cultivate and make appear instantly within 3 months (the summer holidays). That's just not gonna happen. I would essentially finish TY having nothing productive to show on TY Night other than maybe (failed) Work Exp and a reputation of ruining fun trips for other people. Besides, my boredom of not doing academics is just going to escalate to the point where I don't think I could ever go back into the "zone" of Leaving Cert the next year. And then what? I essentially think I'm not up to the level of... openness I'd have to have to try new things and socialize and all that. So I skipped. I can see the benefits of doing TY. And I can also sees the gaps it can cause for me PERSONALLY. It's definitely not for everyone and I wish everyone the best for whatever they chose to do.
Geffakin01
Nope, and I can see you're salty because of the facts I stated ;)
rosecoloredgirl
I did TY last year, it was possibly the worst year of my life. Most of my friends went straight on to 5th year, and I was forced by my parents to do TY. One day in around March I came home from school and cried because how much I hated it. I'm not the most academic student, but I like structure to classes and getting on with my work. The only class I actually did work in was Irish, every other class was dossing and I hated it so much. All our trips were kinda crap (except the abroad one) and our musical was dreadful as well. I honestly missed doing work! I made no new friends as a result of my sadness stemming from the year, and my mental health gradually became worse. I am so happy to be in 5th year and doing work now, no one realises it. Most people absolutely hate 5th year now, however I love it so far (my opinion on this will probably change next year lol). I told my parents the day before I went back to school that I wish I hadn't done TY and it made me out to be a shellhole, my dad agreed but my mom said she would still make me do it. Work experience was the only other good thing from the year in my opinion because I actually like doing a bit of work now and again. Sorry for this massive paragraph, but if you're considering TY, don't do it.
rosecoloredgirl
Also i spent an awful lot of money doing TY, that was about €2000 down the drain from the overall payment of the year to the crappy trips and the trip abroad lmao
Liamhyla16
Big mistake doing TY dont do it
MrKnowitall
Depends on your school really. Me and my friend didn't originally plan to do TY. We're really academic and very school focused, but we signed up in the end cause all our other friends were doing it. Literally like 10 out of 60 of us did 5th year. Regardless you'll only get out of TY what you put into it. Theres the really unacademic dossers in our class who did it just for the sake of no work, and then theres me and my friends who did it not only for a break from our hard work, but to actually try new things like the school show, sign language courses, refereeing courses, etc. It's been a brilliant experience so far, but if you're not going to break away from your comfort zone and take part what's the point.
Geffakin01
Ok that was just weird
gavindoyle15
i did ty and feel like i forgot most stuff from JC and am struggling to settle into 5th year now but it really was a great year so it depends on the type of person you are
MrKnowitall
gavindoyle15 i'm currently in the middle of it. Haven't really forgotten much so far, bar in Irish, my weakest subject because i forget it so quickly, but even though it's TY we still have research projects and deadlines for them, so we are usually still learning. We're not graded tho or anything, not near as much pressure as the CBA's put on me.
Katiekennedy
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TheFionn09
i agree, i believe TY is good. It helps you get experience working and socialising. If yo dont want to forget anything, then use studyclix to "keep your mind in the zone"
June2016
June2016
i just started TY and i think it is an incredibly important year because you work at a pace where you are doing new things or just developing what you are already good at
Kamila02
Kamila02
Well it seems as if you're very much against ty. Ty isn't for everyone that's true , and you may be one of those people. If you're not going to get out of your comfort zone and wont want to try new things then i'd seriously think twice about doing ty, because it is a expensive year and you not enjoying it would be bad. But if you're thinking about not doing ty bc you're afraid about getting back on track in 5th year let me tell you this : I did TY and I'm now in 5th year and I and everyone else that i know is doing just fine, no one was struggling to get back into the habit of studying hw etc, but then again everyone is different. Ty is what you put into it. if you wont do anything it will be a miserable year. A year off from studying was good , and it did me good honestly. I didnt become more confident but because we had work experience i now know what i want to do. If I had skipped then up to now i wouldnt know who i'd want to be, the benefit i got from ty is finding a career i want to do and i have picked the right subjects to do it
Kamila02
Kamila02
The reason a lot of people do ty is because they aren't mature enough to go to 5th year, pretty much over half of my year would be 17 or even some 16 doing their lc if they had skipped ty.I would've been 18 if i had skipped but now i'll be 19. If you feel like your mature enough and really dont see any ways in which ty can be a benefit to you then skip. we have quite a lot of 3rd years with us now because there wasnt enough space for them in ty but like their doing fine. If you study a bit every day you'll be alright
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